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by Patbar
Thu Jul 30, 2026 9:31 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Assessment of Remington Rider pocket revolver
Replies: 2
Views: 352

Re: Assessment of Remington Rider pocket revolver

I couln't see the photo of your Rider Pocket revolver since it has bee withdrawn from the website, so I don't know if it is the percussion or the metallic cartridge conversion.

The percussion version was offered only with a 3" barrel, whereas the cartridge one was available with 2 (scarce), 2 1/2 ...
by Patbar
Mon Jun 08, 2026 3:42 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: n° 3 "sawhandle" Remington-Smoot with wood grips
Replies: 0
Views: 434

n° 3 "sawhandle" Remington-Smoot with wood grips

I just got a n° 3 "sawhandle" Remington-Smoot equipped with walnut grips.

According to the book " A study Of Remington's Smoot Patent & Number Four Revolvers", of all the Smoot models, only the sawhandle variant had wood grips offered as an option. And also according to the sampling that the three ...
by Patbar
Tue Apr 07, 2026 3:25 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: A two tones Beals Navy
Replies: 2
Views: 1095

A two tones Beals Navy

I just got this two tones Beals Navy in its original finish with nickeled frame, blued barrel and cylinder. The nickle plating was well made as iti is still 99 % present with only some small blisters on the left side.

I knew that Remington has made such two tones guns, but it is the first one I see.
by Patbar
Fri Apr 03, 2026 1:31 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington 1858 help!!
Replies: 4
Views: 1314

Re: Remington 1858 help!!

Sorry, but your gun is not original. The marking on the barrel should be on 3 lines and should read like this :

PATENTED SEPT. 14, 1858
E.REMINGTON & SONS, ILION, NEW YORK, U.S.A.
NEW MODEL

Beside, the top of the grip should be rounded and come flush with the frame. The front sight is not correct ...
by Patbar
Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:21 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington New Model 4
Replies: 3
Views: 1632

Re: Remington New Model 4

Hi Daniel,

First, my n° 4 is nickel plated. Also, I do have a copy of Dr. Parkers book, “A Study of Remington’s Smoot Patent & Number Four Revolvers”, and on page 32, I read :

It is also significant that the 1877 catalog and those that followed in 1883 did not distinguish in any manner the ivory ...
by Patbar
Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:35 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington New Model 4
Replies: 3
Views: 1632

Remington New Model 4

I have this Remington New Model n° 4 in caliber .41 CF (rarer than the .41 RF version) which has the famous "Remington ivory grips". These grips are famous because toward the end of the 1870's, Remington replaced the real ivory grips that they proposed as an option with fake ivory made with a ...
by Patbar
Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:45 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Original Old Remington 1858
Replies: 12
Views: 23276

Re: Original Old Remington 1858

Here are photos of the german silver cone sigth on my 1861 barrel :
by Patbar
Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:43 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington 1858
Replies: 4
Views: 8373

Re: Remington 1858

One thing is sure. The cartouche on the grips is not original ! It has at least been re-engraved.
by Patbar
Mon May 19, 2025 1:20 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1870 Navy framed target 22's
Replies: 5
Views: 116627

Re: 1870 Navy framed target 22's

Wow, beautiful gun in great condition !!
by Patbar
Fri May 02, 2025 1:36 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Researching a 1878 New Model 32 cal Conversion
Replies: 2
Views: 8032

Re: Researching a 1878 New Model 32 cal Conversion

This gun is a New Model Pocket percussion revolver of which around 25,000 units were produced from 1865 to 1873. The value of the converted version is less than the original percussion one.

According to the 2019 edition of the Blue Book of Antique American Firearms and Values, the value of a ...
by Patbar
Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:25 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1858 New model Army
Replies: 6
Views: 9429

Re: 1858 New model Army

I'd say that this gun was well pitted and has been very heavily buffed, and even filed.
by Patbar
Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:14 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 2025 Gretting Card
Replies: 1
Views: 9278

Re: 2025 Gretting Card

Happy new year to all members of this forum !
by Patbar
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:35 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 13155

Re: remington ??

These unlicensed copies were in fact very numerous. Most of them were made in Spain and Mexico and perhaps other countries.

Here is one, which I'd say is Spanish, that I sold a while ago.
by Patbar
Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 13155

Re: remington ??

You're entirely right Daniel. I just saw the two lines address and didn't look at the rest of the photos.

The worst thing is that I own a double derringer and what's more I have Dr. William H. Elliot's book "Remington Double Deringer". I'd slap myself as I always want to give a rapid answer without ...
by Patbar
Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:33 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 13155

Re: remington ??

Your Remington double derringer is the second model, manufactured from 1868 to 1888. 14,000 units of this model were produced (a total more than 150,000 units of the four models were produced).

These little pistols are much sought after by collectors.