Just found this Remington group. Big fan of Remington shotguns. I enjoy the old and new Remington shotguns, especially my 870 Competition.
Trying to ID a Remington 20g shotgun, I think it is a Model 11:
Looks internally very similar to a Browning A-5
Has the hump back receiver
Tappered forend with a fastening screw, remains in the forend when removed
Has The Sportsman engraved on the Bolt
Has a Pheasant on the right side of the receiver
Has Remington Reg. US. Pat Off on the left side of the reciever
Serial number 1049xxx
Left side - Barrel has Remington Arms Co. Inc. with Browning US patents underneath
Left side - Barrel is marked 20 GA.
Right side - Barrel has an anchor stamp
Has an adjustable choke - marked The Poly Choke Company, Hartford conn
Overall it is in very good condition, the forend is not cracked, missing the butt pad/recoil pad (had a slip on pad installed). The internals are not heavily worn, the bluing is good (standard wear on the receiver).
A couple of questions:
What model is this?
Was the choke from the factory on these shotguns?
Year of manufacture is May 1938?
What is the metal tab on the left side of the receiver, near the front (looks like the magazine cut-off on the A-5)?
What is the best source for a butt plate OR recoil pad?
Thanks in advance.
M
Model 11 basic questions?
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Re: Model 11 basic questions?
Your shotgun is "The Sportsman." "The Sportsman" was essentially a three-shot version of the Model 11. In 1930, they introduced the 20-gauge Model 11. Model 11 20-gauge serial numbers began at 1,000,000. In 1931, they added the 16-gauge to the line with 16-gauge serial numbers starting at 1,500,000. In 1930, they also introduced a three-shot version in 20-gauge called "The Sportsman."
The 20-gauge “The Sportsman” had serial numbers
beginning low 1? Maybe 1000? They added 12- and 16-gauge "The Sportsman" in 1931, with 12-gauge "The Sportsman" having serial numbers starting at 500,000 and 16-gauges having serial numbers starting at 200,000. "The Sportsman" had a three-bird roll-stamping on each side of the receiver. In 1934 DuPont acquired controlling interest of Remington Arms Co., Inc. In 1937, Remington reduced the roll-stamping on "The Sportsman" to one bird on each side and started putting the roll-stamping on Model 11 receivers as well. At the same time, the name "The Sportsman" or "Model 11" began being stamped on the bolt. On Sep. 28, 1937, they stopped the separate serial number sequence in the 2xx,xxx range for the 16-gauge "The Sportsman"; on Aug. 24, 1937, they stopped the separate serial number sequence in the 5xx,xxx range for the 12-gauges and finally on Feb. 14, 1938, they ended the separate serial numbers for the 20-gauge “The Sportsman” at 16,753. From then on the "Model 11" and "The Sportsman" were serial numbered together, continuing the Model 11 sequences. Combined 12-gauge "Model 11" and "The Sportsman" serial numbers reached 499,999 on August 1, 1943. Serial numbers were then jumped to 700,000 and continued.
So, depending on the last three digits of your serial number, your gun was made sometime in the May to September 1938 time frame. A Poly-Choke from the Remington factory during the years "The Sportsman" was made would be machined integral with the barrel of the gun.
If the Poly-Choke was added after market there should be a choke marking on the left side of the barrel near the breech -- Full, Mod., Imp. Cyl.
The correct butt plate should be the brown one. They seem to be easy to find in boxes of old butt plates at gun shows.
The 20-gauge “The Sportsman” had serial numbers
beginning low 1? Maybe 1000? They added 12- and 16-gauge "The Sportsman" in 1931, with 12-gauge "The Sportsman" having serial numbers starting at 500,000 and 16-gauges having serial numbers starting at 200,000. "The Sportsman" had a three-bird roll-stamping on each side of the receiver. In 1934 DuPont acquired controlling interest of Remington Arms Co., Inc. In 1937, Remington reduced the roll-stamping on "The Sportsman" to one bird on each side and started putting the roll-stamping on Model 11 receivers as well. At the same time, the name "The Sportsman" or "Model 11" began being stamped on the bolt. On Sep. 28, 1937, they stopped the separate serial number sequence in the 2xx,xxx range for the 16-gauge "The Sportsman"; on Aug. 24, 1937, they stopped the separate serial number sequence in the 5xx,xxx range for the 12-gauges and finally on Feb. 14, 1938, they ended the separate serial numbers for the 20-gauge “The Sportsman” at 16,753. From then on the "Model 11" and "The Sportsman" were serial numbered together, continuing the Model 11 sequences. Combined 12-gauge "Model 11" and "The Sportsman" serial numbers reached 499,999 on August 1, 1943. Serial numbers were then jumped to 700,000 and continued.
So, depending on the last three digits of your serial number, your gun was made sometime in the May to September 1938 time frame. A Poly-Choke from the Remington factory during the years "The Sportsman" was made would be machined integral with the barrel of the gun.
If the Poly-Choke was added after market there should be a choke marking on the left side of the barrel near the breech -- Full, Mod., Imp. Cyl.
The correct butt plate should be the brown one. They seem to be easy to find in boxes of old butt plates at gun shows.