Hi Abraham,
Your revolver serial number 12051 was manufactured in February 1863. It is a transition revolver, which means it has some parts from the Old Model also known as an Elliot and a New Model. The cone front sight and barrel address are from the Old Model. The rest of the revolver seems to be a New Model.
Revolver with serial number 129134 is a New Model, which was made in January 1865. Both revolvers are martially marked with the inspection letters stamped on the various parts and the cartouches on the grips.
There are three models of Army (44 caliber) and Navy (36 caliber) sized revolvers. The first was the Beal’s, then the Elliot or Old Model and finally the New Model.
The Beal’s revolver had a barrel address with an 1858 patent date. The patent was for method of retaining the cylinder pin with the loading lever. The loading lever had to be lowered to remove the cylinder pin.
The Elliot had the 1861 patent date, which allowed the cylinder pin to be pulled forward and the cylinder removed without lowering the loading lever. As Carbineone wrote the Government did not like this arrangement because the cylinder pin could slide out while in a holster which caused the cylinder to lock up.
On the New Model Remington went back to the Beal’s type arrangement with the old 1858 patent date.
If you would like more information I would recommend “Remington Army and Navy Revolvers 1861-1868” by Donald Ware.
Hope this helps
Two New Model Army
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I would try Dixie Gun Works, Union City, Tennessee.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com
Also if you go to the RSA Home Page you will see on the left side a link called Service/Parts. There are several parts dealers listed who sell and make parts for Remington products.
Bill
http://www.dixiegunworks.com
Also if you go to the RSA Home Page you will see on the left side a link called Service/Parts. There are several parts dealers listed who sell and make parts for Remington products.
Bill
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Re: Two New Model Army
Export IS possible but several years ago the US Government changed the rules. A Class 8 FFL fee went up by 8 or 10 times and THEN later in that year they said that it was valid for only 25 exports -- and each one after that would incur a charge of $100.
So -- like all devious political acts, they didn't actually BAN exports but priced many small ones out of the market.
I understand that some items under $100 value do not need an export license.
Perhaps you ought to contact a Licensed Exporter --- there are still quite a few left in the USA.
One thought --- SURELY if a pre-1899 gun is not a "firearm" under Federal Law then the pARTS of that are not "Parts of a Firearm" --- so they ought to be "exportable" without too many problems/
Have I got it wrong?
So -- like all devious political acts, they didn't actually BAN exports but priced many small ones out of the market.
I understand that some items under $100 value do not need an export license.
Perhaps you ought to contact a Licensed Exporter --- there are still quite a few left in the USA.
One thought --- SURELY if a pre-1899 gun is not a "firearm" under Federal Law then the pARTS of that are not "Parts of a Firearm" --- so they ought to be "exportable" without too many problems/
Have I got it wrong?
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Re: Two New Model Army
I've sent antique parts / pieces to numerous places oversea's (France, Germany, UK) never had an issue on my end and they've never had a problem either. This and empty obsolete caliber brass that the manufacture wouldn't send directly.
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You can easily have new nipples manufactured close to were you live. Nipples are not high tech. Find a guy with a lathe and give him a drawing. High carbon steel/silver steel will do. Could even do without hardening.