Civil war dated New Model Army SN:83602

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NewModelArmy 83003
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Civil war dated New Model Army SN:83602

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Good afternoon everyone!

My Name is Chuck from the UK, have recently joined up to the forum after acquiring a nice condition New model Army which has most of its original Blue left. At some point it has made its journey across the pond to the UK and after winning it at auction it has been purchased for research purposes as I have always had a fascination with Remington side arms. I have already started writing up an in depth research document for it which I can upload at a later date.

Currently I am trying to do some further research on it and I thought this could be a great place to start and to meet people who may have an interest in it.

I have found out a fair bit about this Remington already, it was made in July 1864, serial Number 83602, It has a W stamped in to the left side of the barrel (Likely linked to a "William Waters" who I believe was a sub-inspector at the Remington plant) , a J on the right side of the barrel of which I cant nail down an inspector, an F stamped in to the brass trigger guard of which I also cannot nail down to an inspector however could be a Frankford Arsenal Connection: While I believe most inspector initials are for individuals, supposedly some collectors associate the "F" specifically with inspectors operating under the guidance of the Frankford Arsenal oversight, though in this case, it is most likely an individual sub-inspector whose name remains lost to history but whose work was approved by the U.S. Ordnance Department. and the "Giles Porter" Cartouche on the left hand side grip indicating that it was manufactured and inspected for the Union Army.

From my research so far it appears that it was made at a significant time as it coincides with the Unions final push to end the war just as the transition started towards the Remington being the primary sidearm of the North after the Colt Factory burnt down in a fire in Feburary 1864 and at a time when the Union was aggressively trying to resupply the front lines with revolvers after heavy usage of the previous batches and battles.

From what I understand it was made in a batch of approximately 6000-7000 revolvers which were dated from July 1864 and from the serial number and date I believe it would have likely been sent directly to the Ordnance department for distribution to the front lines.

Looking at the serial number and dates I believe that the Union Cavalry Bureau was distributing these revolvers to the major areas of war and it appears that it could have likely been used by one of the following commanding units:

• Sheridan’s Cavalry Corps (Army of the Potomac): In the summer of 1864, General Philip Sheridan was aggressively re-equipping his men for the Shenandoah Valley Campaign. Units like the 1st, 2nd, and 5th U.S. Cavalry (Regulars) or the 6th Pennsylvania Cavalry were being heavily supplied with new Remingtons at this time.

• The Army of the Cumberland (Western Theater): These troops were part of General Sherman's Atlanta Campaign. Revolvers in this serial range frequently went to cavalry regiments from Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois who were fighting their way toward Atlanta in July 1864.

• Wilson’s Cavalry Corps: Later in 1864, James H. Wilson began forming a massive, centralized cavalry force that would eventually become the most formidable horse-soldier unit in history. They prioritized the Remington for its "solid frame" durability in the field.

From looking at the serial number "83602" and a lot of reading online, revolvers in this range have often been tied down to being in the hands of the 6th Michigan Volunteer Cavalry, from looking online there appears to be a few hits in this serial block for instance serial number "79425" that was issued to this unit which served under general Custer in the Shenandoah Valley campaign. (which is quite exciting as this serial number is very close!)

At the same time another potential is the 1st Massachusetts Cavalry. Records suggest many Remingtons from the summer 1864 batches were sent to the Army of the Potomac as "replacement pools" for Massachusetts and Pennsylvania regiments.

I must stress all the above is from a lot of looking around in different places online so there may be discrepancies in some of the accuracy of my findings but I have been trying to research this on my own without any outside help, until I found this forum!

I would be incredibly grateful if anyone else on here has anything to add and chip in to this research project of mine as I am sure there are a lot of experts on here.

Is there such thing as original old records held still for these side arms? I am wondering if there is any further information to be granted from places of old records etc.

Below I have attached some photos of the Remington for you to look at.

I look forward to getting involved in the forum where I can and hopefully this is an interesting read for my first proper post on here :)

Thank you,

Chuck.
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Re: Civil war dated New Model Army SN:83003

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Annoyingly after winning the Remington it turns out the wrong serial number was listed in the auction.. it’s actually Serial number: 83602 (I have edited the above post with the correct serial number) thankfully still in the above bracket of July 1864 date though so I will probably have to alter some of the above information.

Ok the flip side I’ve found something really interesting which I didn’t spot before purchasing it.. I’ve heard of soldiers engraving their guns with names/initials and regiments either underneath on the bottom strap or inside the grips.. and looking underneath mine it appears to have a period hammered “trench art” engraving, I read that the soldiers had a tool which had a small squared end to it and it appears to have what looks like either a “w”, “3” or “M” hand punched in to the metal strap, I noticed this whilst looking for the factory stamps in the bottom of the grips (which it has). When looking at this I also then noticed what appears to be another soldier modification, around the left hand factory “w” stamp on the grip in the attached photo, there seems to be what appears to be what looks like a horses head carved around it, at first I thought this was just a bit of damage until I noticed it actually has an eye square punched right in the correct place and three clear square indents in a line underneath the “w” factor stamp which if we read with the barrel pointed away from us as then the horses head is the correct orientation, it would be a “W” in the strap although the shape also does look like a number 3, then to the left the horses head and inside that, a “M” with three indents underneath it, I’m wondering if this stands for a 3rd Michigan cavalry or something similar. I’d be intrigued to hear if anyone else on here has found anything similar!

I’m yet to have it in hand so unable to check under the grips for any further engravings or markings or even check these details closer up rather than the pictures I’ve been supplied! It appears I still have a lot of research to do on this Remington but it’s shaping up to be potentially rather exciting!😎

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Re: Civil war dated New Model Army SN:83602

Post by aardq »

Hi Chuck,

Sub-inspectors used a lower case letter. An uppercase W is an in house Rem inspector. The pistols were not necessarily kept in any order, by either Rem, or the ordinance Dept. That means that 4 consecutive numbers could have ended up going to 4 different units, at four different times.

Factor in that most soldiers were never given pistols, despite the fact that most photos show the soldier holding a pistol. Those were photographer's props.

The cavalry, and many non-infantry units, like artillary were issued pistols. Springfield Research has found some serial numbers issued to units. Most that have traced serial numbers went through a long process of checking records, including unit records in the Library of Congress. Remington records don't exist, so a search can't start from there. It is mostly just luck that some pistols have been traced to units.

Enjoy you pistol when it arrives.
Daniel
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Re: Civil war dated New Model Army SN:83602

Post by aardq »

Hello aain,

I just noticed that it appears to have traces of some white letters on the butt. If they are letters and numbers they could be: KM - Karl Moldenhauer, or FB -
Fritz Burke. They were American collectors that marked their guns with their initials and their inventory number using White out.

Daniel
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