Dating 1858 Remington

[dieNusse1]

I'll have to pass you on to someone much more knowledgable. The leading 7 on the frame does not appear on the barrel so ???? I do believe the frame and barrel did leave the factory as one but I don't know if the difference in S/N is a common feature of The NMA.

Anyone out there with some information?

[Stewart1703]

Hi yes is a mystery, but the other S/N match up ie 7570 just the leading 7 in front, otherwise a match
And I believe no coincidence …

Hopefully someone will be able to clarify what’s happened here

[Stewart1703]

The frame and barrel is stamped with a W

[aardq]

Hi Stewart,

This gun is really a mystery. To start, what is the "ref 3734,} and where is it located? Next, what kind of front sight does it have, a cone or a "pinched" sight? I can't read the numbers in the photos, but it looks like the number on the frame has 5 digits. The final location is on the tab of the trigger guard. A New Model Army serial will have 5 or 6 digits. The single small letters on the gun are military, sub-inspector's marks. The cartouche on the left grip is the initials of the final inspector. Knowing the initials can give us a time range when the grip was stamped. The large W is an in house Remington inspector.

Serial 7570 was made in Dec of 1862 and would be an 1861 or Elliot Model. To me the first two digits look like 77. The new Model numbers started in the 17000-20,000 range, there is a transition period when Remington was using up parts on hand.

The barrel has new Model markings, so it may be that the full serial just wasn't put on the bbl. Just an error.

The gun is in amazing condition, considering when it might have been made all guns were sent to Army units or to Navy ships. The grips show more wear than the blueing would indicate. I suspect either the grips were replaced, or the gun was very professionally refinished, and the original grip put back on.

The case is either recently made, or an old case recently redone with new felt, and the box of cartridges is new made, not old.

That is a very nice pistol, no matter the story.

Daniel

[Stewart1703]

Hi Daniel,
The ref 3734 should be ignored, it was the dealer’s catalog number sorry for confusion
The sight is pinched see photo
The barrel S/N is clearly marked 7570
The frame is S/N is 7 7570 the 7 in front of 7570 is strange but no coincidence this is the same number on the barrel
I have attached a further picture of the mark on the grip hopefully this matches records and a date can be identified
I bought the gun with original finish as a very fine example, it was expensive…
I look forward to receiving your further comments

It’s a beautiful gun

Thank you for your help

Stewart

[Stewart1703]

Hi I think the first initial is either a R or a B and the second letter is possibly an L , hopefully someone who is familiar with such marks can identify

Btw the box and sundries are recent just to present and store the gun

Stewart

[Stewart1703]

I think I have solved the inspectors mark , I believe this to be B H, for Benjamin Hannis', US Civil war inspector's grip cartouch

Can anyone help me with a date?