Several Model 141 questions please.
1. Is there a highest known/estimated serial number for the early so called “transition model” using the Model 14 barrel and lacking the “Gamemaster” nomenclature?
2. Is there a lowest known/estimated “Gamemaster” marked Model 141 wearing the ‘new’ 24” barrel?
3. Any date/serial number information concerning when Remington implemented the sweat on 141 front ramp sight base to replace the milled ramp style base?
Any information appreciated!
Early Model 141 Questions Please!
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
All this information was included in Ken Blauch's book on the 14, 141, 25, and 14-1/2. Ken no longer has copies but if you really want the information there's a copy on Ebay for $54.
Jim Peterson
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iskra1
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
It was actually from just having read Ken’s excellent article on the 141 Carbine that caused me to again think about both my transition 14/141 and my quite early, minty, “Gamemaster” marked 141 with forged sight base. Both in 35 Remington.
I’d very much like to have Ken’s book, but my actual questions are narrow, specific, only several and I’ve already a small queue of books on my ‘Wanted’ list. I think I’ll ‘hang’ a bit and see if anyone else has input. A couple of alternatives too. Ultimately, if such Remington fine points elude me; academic interest only, I’ll just move on!
Thank you Sir for your referral & suggestion!
iskra
I’d very much like to have Ken’s book, but my actual questions are narrow, specific, only several and I’ve already a small queue of books on my ‘Wanted’ list. I think I’ll ‘hang’ a bit and see if anyone else has input. A couple of alternatives too. Ultimately, if such Remington fine points elude me; academic interest only, I’ll just move on!
Thank you Sir for your referral & suggestion!
iskra
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The Gamemaster
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
The answer is that he doesn't want to read anything or learn anything or know anything, he just wants you to spoon feed him the answer.
I may sound bitter, but people like that you can't help.
My thoughts are that iskra just wants to brag to his buddies about his rare rifles he owns. The change of generations. Thank God I will be dead soon enough.
My prediction is that it is only going to get worse before it gets better!
I may sound bitter, but people like that you can't help.
My thoughts are that iskra just wants to brag to his buddies about his rare rifles he owns. The change of generations. Thank God I will be dead soon enough.
My prediction is that it is only going to get worse before it gets better!
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iskra1
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
And turning the other cheek... I thank God and you Sir for the opportunity to practice my Faith. God Bless You!The Gamemaster wrote:The answer is that he doesn't want to read anything or learn anything or know anything, he just wants you to spoon feed him the answer.
I may sound bitter, but people like that you can't help.
My thoughts are that iskra just wants to brag to his buddies about his rare rifles he owns. The change of generations. Thank God I will be dead soon enough.
My prediction is that it is only going to get worse before it gets better!
iskra
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
January 1938 is correct.
It fires a .32 Remington which is a rimless version of the .32 Winchester Special but uses the same loading data/bullets.
Your rifle is missing the brass cartridge head from the hole just in front of where that scope mount is positioned, it is NOT a carbine.
The Model 141 was introduced in 1935 as an "improved" version of the Model 14, mainly a stock & fore end that was more substantial and a longer (24") Barrel but the internals were basically the same as late Model 14 versions.
Ammunition is a bitch since Remington discontinued producing new .30 Remington Brass over a year ago from which by expanding the neck you could make .32 Remington. These rifles use round nose bullets only and I personally consider the best source of loaded ammunition to be Buffalo Arms but have no idea as to their stock status.
Original factory ammo is available on some of the websites like Gunbroker and it not cheap but in another year it will be hellish expensive. That's sort of the short version of the story on your rifle. Please keep in mind that most small parts used internally for the 141 do indeed differ from those in the Model 14, the exception to this are the VERY late 14's but folks like Numrich, sellers on Ebay, and most on Gunbroker don't differentiate.
You will probably get a lot of other responses, good luck with your rifle.
Jim Peterson
Charlotte, NC
It fires a .32 Remington which is a rimless version of the .32 Winchester Special but uses the same loading data/bullets.
Your rifle is missing the brass cartridge head from the hole just in front of where that scope mount is positioned, it is NOT a carbine.
The Model 141 was introduced in 1935 as an "improved" version of the Model 14, mainly a stock & fore end that was more substantial and a longer (24") Barrel but the internals were basically the same as late Model 14 versions.
Ammunition is a bitch since Remington discontinued producing new .30 Remington Brass over a year ago from which by expanding the neck you could make .32 Remington. These rifles use round nose bullets only and I personally consider the best source of loaded ammunition to be Buffalo Arms but have no idea as to their stock status.
Original factory ammo is available on some of the websites like Gunbroker and it not cheap but in another year it will be hellish expensive. That's sort of the short version of the story on your rifle. Please keep in mind that most small parts used internally for the 141 do indeed differ from those in the Model 14, the exception to this are the VERY late 14's but folks like Numrich, sellers on Ebay, and most on Gunbroker don't differentiate.
You will probably get a lot of other responses, good luck with your rifle.
Jim Peterson
Charlotte, NC
Jim Peterson
Re: Early Model 141 Questions Please!
Jim Peterson