an old 30 caliber rifle

[bfischer]

I acquired a 30cal rifle that was first pattentd in 1804 and last patented in 1874---had hex barrel---in shootable condition---good rifleing--rolling block--- I have taken a bunch of pictures but dont know how to post on this site----I am looking for information and or estimated value (of course is is says Remington on it)

[tjack]

The rolling block action got it's start during the Civil War so I don't know what the 1807 date is. If it is a rolling block and has a last patent date of 1874 and is ".30 cal" I'm going to guess that it is the M1897 7mm Rolling Block. The M1897, the 1st smokeless powder actions, were made with surplus (ie left over) black powder actions. I'm not sure of the particulars but the action itself may have been hardened and new, hardened block and hammer used. The Scandinavians did the same when they converted 11 and 12mm rifles to 8mm.

[tjack]

Just reread your message. The "hex" bbl throws me. Is it a sporting rifle or a military rifle? Could be chambered for a .32RF in which case it could be a No. 2 or No.4.

[bfischer]

here are some pictures----of that rifle---I can send directly to anyone who likes-----I have a bunch more close up's


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ ... gun010.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ ... gun002.jpg

[tjack]

Your rifle is what's known as the No.2 Rolling Block. It is ID'd by the sloping angle where the receiver and butt stock come together. It is porbably chambered for the .32RF (rim fire) cartridge (although it may be chambered for the .32 extra long RF). It is also possible that it is chambered for the .32-20 Winchester cartridge. !st, look at the face of the block and see whether the fireing pin is set up for center fire or rimfire. If RF, measure the length of the chamber. A .32RF has a loaded length of 1.215". The .32 extra long RF has a loaded length of 1.570". A chamber cast is the surest way to determine caliber/cartridge.
I contacted Navy Arms last spring Re them having more .32 RF made up. I was told they should have a new shipment in by the end of summer. I have yet to recontact them.