Help with ID of Rolling Block

wk4036 · Post by **wk4036** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:13 am

Hi Guy's,
I have aquired a rolling block and need a little help nailing down exactly what model it is.
Barrel is 36"
OAL is 51"
There is an "R" stamped in the wood in front of the top butt plate screw
There is a "B" stamped in barrel just in front of the receiver
The three barrel bands have a "U" stamped in them
It has a bayonet lug
It has a flip up rear Military style rear sight
Rear sling swivel is mounted in the wood behind the bottom tang
Last Patent date is March 18th 1874
Barrel measures .43 Spanish
There is no pin or screw to retain firing pin
About a 2 1/2" long hex on rear of barrel with no writing on top

rudybolla · Post by **rudybolla** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:27 pm

Does the rifle have an octagonal breech section about 2.5 inches long? I have had two Modelo Argentino rollers with the same R stamped in front of the buttplate. The R on barrel is, I assume, an insprctor's mark. The "U", I have been told, is solely to help you put the band back on right.
Send me pics at dbeard@mindspring.com and I can tell you more.

wk4036 · Post by **wk4036** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:40 pm

Yes it does have the hex and I edited my post as I forgot that when I typed it.
Any idea what model # these are??

rudybolla · Post by **rudybolla** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:58 pm

It seems to be an unmarked Argentine Model 1879. No real consensus on why the top of breech not stamped MODELO ARGENTONO EN. I have owned two unmarked examples and they tend to be in superior condition to marked ones (No pitting along woodline). My two cents? They were not marked at the factory, but only after being issued in Argentina, so they were kept in storage OR they were commercial models/production overruns for US sale. But they all have the same heavy-handed refinishing and bluing that I was told was done in Argentina prior to being shipped to US in 1950s. Or maybe the refinishing was done in the States. Who knows? Not me, that's for sure!

Block Argentino · Post by **Block Argentino** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:56 am

Hi
Reading the first post here on top i found this article on the net about why this could be.
Probably when our Army changed from Remington to Mauser 1891 a non delivered Blocks where sold in the US by Remington into the civilian market and no Argentine stamping was done.
Here the link.
http://militaryrifles.com/Argentina/EduardoPics.htm
Byeee
Karl-heinz

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Help with ID of Rolling Block

Help with ID of Rolling Block