Let me know if your rifle looks like this one.
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Matt
Military Creedmoor
Re: Military Creedmoor
Hello lonestarrifle,
Let me know if your rifle looks like this one. Have a Good Day,
Matt
Let me know if your rifle looks like this one. Have a Good Day,
Matt
Re: Military Creedmoor
Hello lonestarrifle,
In Remington’s 1877 catalog, there are five (5) grades of Creedmoor Sporting Rifles listed.
Grade C is listed as having a Military Stock with Vernier and Wind Gauge Sights for $55.00.
I believe that these rifles were made without the vernier tang and globe front sights, so they could be used in the standard military shoots at the Creedmoor Range. There were lots of matches held for the New York State National Guard and Interstate shoots that were held at Creedmoor, that required only standard military sights could only be used in those matches.
I have two of these Remington Military Creedmoor Rifles in my collection. Both are chambered in 44-90 Sharps, 2-5/8" length. The serial numbers on my guns are in the 4500 to 4599 range.The serial numbers on these two guns are stamped on the bottom of the barrel, on the bottom of the trigger guard, on the inside of the buttplate, on the buttstock, forearm and forearm end cap. It is very cool that yours has British import stamps on the barrel. It is to bad that Remington did not keep any records of the sell of their guns, it would be interesting to see who these rifle were sold to.
Have a Good Day,
Matt
In Remington’s 1877 catalog, there are five (5) grades of Creedmoor Sporting Rifles listed.
Grade C is listed as having a Military Stock with Vernier and Wind Gauge Sights for $55.00.
I believe that these rifles were made without the vernier tang and globe front sights, so they could be used in the standard military shoots at the Creedmoor Range. There were lots of matches held for the New York State National Guard and Interstate shoots that were held at Creedmoor, that required only standard military sights could only be used in those matches.
I have two of these Remington Military Creedmoor Rifles in my collection. Both are chambered in 44-90 Sharps, 2-5/8" length. The serial numbers on my guns are in the 4500 to 4599 range.The serial numbers on these two guns are stamped on the bottom of the barrel, on the bottom of the trigger guard, on the inside of the buttplate, on the buttstock, forearm and forearm end cap. It is very cool that yours has British import stamps on the barrel. It is to bad that Remington did not keep any records of the sell of their guns, it would be interesting to see who these rifle were sold to.
Have a Good Day,
Matt
Re: Military Creedmoor
Hello lonestarrifle,
Here is some more data on my rifles.
On these Military Creedmoor Rifles the barrels were of 32 inches in length, compared to the NYS Rifles that had barrels of 36 inches, by turning the rear sight around, you were able to increase your sight radius. That may explain why these sights are backwards compared to other rifles. As for glare on the rear sight, in the Adjutant General Reorts for the New York National Guard they discuss the problem of glare coming off the the barrels and the possiblity of browning the barrels to cut down on th glare. Also in General Wingates book "Manual for Rifle Practice" from the 1870's, he talks about the troops blacking their sights to cut down on the glare problem. Both of my rifles have blued barrels, is yours also blued?
As for the value of these guns, that is hard to say, I don't think Remington made a lot of them compared to the number of Creedmoor Sporting Rifle that they made. In 20+ years of collecting military rolling blocks, up until now the two that I have are the only ones that I have seen, other then the two, Grade C, Creedmoor Military Rifles with targets sights that where in the book "The Guns of Remington". Would it be possible to get some photos of your gun for my records.
Have a Good Day,
Matt
Here is some more data on my rifles.
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As for the value of these guns, that is hard to say, I don't think Remington made a lot of them compared to the number of Creedmoor Sporting Rifle that they made. In 20+ years of collecting military rolling blocks, up until now the two that I have are the only ones that I have seen, other then the two, Grade C, Creedmoor Military Rifles with targets sights that where in the book "The Guns of Remington". Would it be possible to get some photos of your gun for my records.
Have a Good Day,
Matt