Early Model 10, I think

[avery53]

I bought this old Model 10 ???, it has no Model 10 designation on it, and no date code on the barrel.
Serial number is 60xxx, so a pretty early one I'm guessing.
All numbers match, right down to the wood.
Would anyone hazard a guess to a manufacture date, I have searched the web to no avail.
When did they start putting the Model 10 on the gun, maybe that would narrow it down a bit?
I'm pretty sure it takes 2-9/16" shells if I measured right.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
avery

[Researcher]

What is the company name on the gun? Remington Arms Co.? Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co.? Remington Arms Co., Inc.?

Remington Arms Co. introduced their John D. Pedersen designed 12-gauge pump gun in 1908, calling it the Remington Repeating Shotgun. In 1911, M. Hartley Dodge combined his firearms and ammunition manufacturing companies as Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. Shortly after that they began calling the bump gun the Model No. 10.

From 1909 Remington Arms Co. catalogue --

[avery53]

There are no marks on the receiver other than the serial #.
On the slide arm it is (trade REMINGTON mark).
The barrel is Remington Arms Co. Ilion NY USA
Patents Feby 1903, May 16 1905

That's it, other than Full on the left rear of the barrel, and the Remington mark in an oval on the right rear of the barrel.
Nothing indicating it is a 12ga either.

Thanks
avery

[Researcher]

If it says Remington Arms Co., that is 1910 and earlier. Both the Remington Autoloading Gun and the Remington Repeating Gun were made for 2 3/4 inch 12-gauge shells right from their introduction.

[avery53]

If it says Remington Arms Co., that is 1910 and earlier. Both the Remington Autoloading Gun and the Remington Repeating Gun were made for 2 3/4 inch 12-gauge shells right from their introduction.

Researcher, I appreciate the info very much.
However, the chamber definitely measures less than 2-3/4", perhaps they made it both ways.
Thanks again
avery

[Researcher]

At least A.H. Fox Gun Co. and Parker Bros. held their chambers about 1/8 inch shorter than the intended shells. The belief was that the mouth of the case extending a ways into the forcing cone cushioned the shot load and gave better patterns. Maybe Remington Arms Co. was doing the same thing.