remington arms co with parker brothers?

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remington arms co with parker brothers?

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I am wondering if someone can tell me the year of my grandfathers shotgun serial number 337534 in has remington arms co on it and parkers brothers on the stock where the recoil pad would go i think its a 12 guage and has a V on the water table as well and the serial number, the number 7691, and pat out 30TH94. If someone could help me out that would be great.

Thanks Travis
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Go to the Parker website http://parkerguns.org and look at the left hand side of the page. There are sections to date your gun, and to identify the grade of your gun. The folks there are very helpful. If you can post pictures of your gun there, you'll get lots of help
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Thanks for the info ill check it out.
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You have a Remington Arms Co. Model 1900 made in early 1903. Somewhere along the line in the last 107 years it apparently got a Parker butt plate. Remington Arms Co., Inc./E.I. DuPont bought the Parker Gun works and the right to use the Parker name, not the Parker Bros. name, in 1934. In 1937 they moved the Parker gun works from Meriden, Connecticut, to the Remington factory in Ilion, New York. Parker serial numbers only go up into the 242xxx range.

Remington Model 1900s are a simplified, cheaper, version of the Model 1894, built on the same patents -- No. 528,507 and No. 528,508 both granted Oct. 30, 1894. The Model 1900s were all K-Grades, with E added to the designation if the gun had ejectors and D if it had Damascus barrels -- K-, KE-, KD-, or KED-Grades. The K- and KE-Grades had Remington Steel barrels. The Model 1900s had a snap-on/off forearm and their serial numbers were in the 300,000 range, often preceded with a stock letter Q.

You need to check out Charles G. Semmer's book Remington Double Shotguns. It is available from the author 7885 Cyd Drive, Denver, CO 80221, for $60 plus $5 shipping and handling. It is invaluable if you are going to shoot, invest, collect or play in the Remington double gun field. Remington supplied a number of different pattern Damascus barrels on these old doubles. A picture of their salesman’s sample of the various styles of Damascus available is shown on page 275 of Semmer's book.

Remington Arms Co. stamped the actual pellet counts of their test patterns on the rear barrel lug of their Model 1889 hammer doubles and their Model 1894 and 1900 hammerless doubles. If the number is three digits, that is the count, if the number is two digits a leading 3 is implied. From surviving hang-tags we know the standard load they used to target 12-gauge guns was 1 1/4 ounces of #8 going 511 pellets to the load. My 12-gauge KE-Grade Model 1900 is stamped 33 on the left and 24 on the right. That would be 333/511 = 65% left and 324/511 = 64% right, or about improved modified in both barrels. The chokes measure .027" in both barrels of that gun.

By the end of the first decade of the 20th Century, Remington saw that the future laid with their John M. Browning designed Remington Autoloading Gun (later known as the Model 11) and their John D. Pederson designed Remington Repeating Shotgun (later known as the Model 10). So, they concluded a deal with Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Co. of StLouis, for their entire inventory of break-action shotguns in inventory and in process, on February 3, 1910. There must have been a lot of guns involved, because the records show 3206 Model 1894s, and 16435 Model 1900s shipped in 1910. The 1909 Remington Arms Co. catalogue was the last one to include the doubles, and there was a version of the 1909 catalogue that only had the Remington Autoloading Shotgun, the Remington Repeating Shotgun, and the Autoloading Repeating Rifle.
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