Need Info----Gun Brocker #153839587

[Doc O]

Hello, I'm new to this forum and the rolling block other then a reproduction I have in 45-70.
Could anyone give me some info on this gun on gun brocker.
I'm looking at it hard with the intentions of cutting the barrel to a carbine length.
I'm not really sure what it is by the discription.
Need advice good or bad. Please

Thanks
Doc

What I'm wanting is a 50-70 cabine when all said and done.

[tjack]

It looks as described, a New York State model and it has been used hard and cut down (stock). It looks too poor in condition to have much collector value so you probably could not hurt it by having the barrel shortened.

[Doc O]

tjack, [been used hard ]
That's kind of what I was thinking but I would cut in down anyway.
I'm mostly concerned about it still being shootable.
I haven't ruled it out yet but I'm looking at something a bit better and already in
the carbine form.
Doc

[oldremguy]

Hello Doc,

Here are some photos of the NYS Carbines

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Have a good day,
Matt

[Doc O]

YEP that's what I'm looking for!
I see there is a type I and a type II.
The only difference I can see is the sights although there is probably other differences.

Thanks for the photos.

Doc

[oldremguy]

Hello Doc,

When I had my Remington Rolling Block collection on display at a
gun show a couple of years ago, I labeled the carbines as type 1
and type 2, so the public would note the different in the rear sights.
Both carbines are identical; Remington produced the carbines with
their standard short leaf rear sight.

In 1875, Geo W. Wingate, Colonel and General Inspector of Rifle Practice
for the State of New York, “recommended a new rear sight for all carbines.
Although the standard rear sights are extremely accurate as they are sighted
at present, much practice is required to use them with certainty at 200 yards.”

So at some point in time New York State gave authorization to start replacing
the rear sight with one of a new design. In the photo below it shows the patent
date stamped on the left side of the new target sight. On this carbine if you remove
the target sight, you will find a third screw hole were the short leaf carbine sight was mounted to the barrel.

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Have a good day,
Matt