Need help indentifying a black powder gun

[kfx400jim]

I was passed down a black powder rifle from my father. It has been in my family since at least WW2. It was my uncles gun and he passed away before I could get more information about it. I was told that it is a faily rare Remington that was one of a limited production hand made rifles. I would really like to know what this is. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have many detailed pictures in the link below.

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/ ... %20Powder/

[DavidFagan]

Gee I was waiting for someone to answer
I believe it's just a Remington barrel, but the pictures bring up a lot of questions....
For instance in the picture of the REMINGTON stamp it actually looks like the barrel was made to fit the receiver vs vice-versa or is that just a photo illusion?

[kfx400jim]

It's not an illusion. It looks like the reciever was made to blend with the barrel. The gun is very interesting. If you notice, the length is only 36 inches from shoulder to muzzle. It is about a foot shorter than the other black powder guns that I inherited. One shop in town wrote a very substatial appraisal for it. Accordig to him, the gun was one of a limited number of hand made Remington target rifles. He said he has only seen 3 in 50+ years in the buisness.

[kfx400jim]

Does anyone even have general info about this gun?

[Ray Newman]

Try your query @ the Wy Schuetzen Union & the Amer. Single Shot Rifle Asso.:

www.wyomingschuetzen.com/
www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

There are some ML shooters there.

It could also be that it is a Remington barrel that was mated w/ action by the builder. IIRC, Remington sold barrels to gunsmith who built rifles around them.

Might also try here:
www.nmlra.org/

[JV Puleo]

Its probably an offhand target rifle made in New England ca1840-1860. The all metal action is very interesting. Edwin Wesson and George Pratt Foster also used all metal actions albeit not exactly like that one. I suspect the very short length is to accommodate carrying it in a buggy...not all "buggy rifles" had detachable stocks. The long sight mounted on the barrel identifies it as a target rifle and not a hunting arm. I'd favor a New England maker simply because that was the national center of machine and metal manufacturing. If the rifle wasn't made in New England the action almost certainly was. Remington made the barrel but I very much doubt any of the rest of it. Remington barrels are common on NE and NY rifles of all types.

Joe Puleo