Remington Society

This is a Remington pistol frame cadet rifle. These were made in the 1890s by using surplus Navy rolling block pistols. Dealer Hartley & Graham had them made up by both their gunsmith Coxford and by Remington.

Remington made several hundred such carbines…but try to find one today!?!

Does anyone have, or know of, an example of the Remington .58 caliber “transformed carbine?”

Remington made thousands of Springfield M1861/63 musket conversions-to-breechloader starting in 1868. They also made a very few salesman samples using other muzzle loading arms — the Remington “Zouave rifle” being a very rare example.

If it has no other clearly Egyptian markings then it may be a French contract rifle, 1870-1.

Where can I find modern made .50 Spencer rimfire cartridges to experience shooting my Remington carbine? The antique stuff is a bit expensive.

The tang markings say when the original gun was made, not when Ingersoll remanufactured it.

The rear sight is a Dexter Patent, authorized for use by the state about 1878 in an effort to improve the accuracy of long range shooting. The original small rear sight was totally inadequate.

P.S. It was sold at auction number 120, not the latest one. Does anyone have that catalog, to send a copy of the photo?

Does anyone know who acquired the "short transformed" (i.e. converted to breechloader) rolling block rifle in this photo? It was sold at the recent Amoskeag Auction Co. sale. I would like to contact the owner.

No, there’s no way to tell pre-post 1898. All Remington Arms Co. made carbines had 20 inch barrels. The ER&S carbines had differing barrel lengths and choices of .44 RF or CF, 1884-88.

Light Baby Carbines with a tang marked “E. Remington &Sons” were made prior to the company’s bankruptcy in 1888. If marked “Remington Arms Company” then made later. There is insufficient ‘serial number’ (or factory inventory number) data to be able to accurately track pre/post 1898 manufacture.
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In general, the number designation was for sporting rifles only. Military rifles were given a name, i.e. Light Baby Carbine, Spanish Model, transformation rifle, Danish Model.

Bob,
Only South Carolina bought the Remington transformation in .58 Roberts.

The stocks bought by Remington were more likely stock blanks — but if actual machined stocks, Remington would have removed any cartouches in reconfiguring the wood with a slimmed wrist to fit the frame.

Note that Steve’ And Matt’s carbines are different alterations. Steve’s has the Whitney rotary extractor as evidenced by the extra screw on the left side of the frame. Matt’s carbine appears to retain the original sliding extractor.