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My father left me his gun collection but no history etc of each gun. I need help to ID the guns and find out if they are rare etc and the value. I may sale. Here is a list of guns I have. I will give the info on the first two that I have. If anyone can help me with the rest of the guns on what I should look for to ID them please let me know.
1. Remington Rolling-Block. overall length 52". Barrel length 36". Barrel has adjustable windage rear sight with numbers 1234 and letter B. Barrel is stamped S on one side and P on other. Each of the tree rings on barrel are stamped B,B,S and B,R,B. side of gun plate has B. On each side of stock script letters RPJ and LNY. Butt plate has H. At end of stock before butt plate a numer 24 is stamped. Pat date may 3, Nov 15 1864, April 17 1868, Aug 27 1867 and Nov. 7 1871. Hammer has high spur. When breachblock is opened then closed hammer has automatic decock. Was this rifle made for the New York Militia? I do not know the Cal.

2. Remington single action over/under Derringer..41 cal 3" barrel nickle finish hard rubber grips. Remington Arms--U>M>C Co Ilion NY stamp on top of barrel. L90527 stamp on bottom of barrel.

3. Harpers Ferry dated 1816 .69 cal I think. looks like it was converted from flintlock to percussion. Lockplate has Eagle and US.

4. Ballard .56 cal ? or .44

5. Long flintlock 62" rifle has Arabic markings Pearl or shell in handle.
6. Hotchkiss cal? pat oct 16 1860, June 25 1872, July 23 1878.
7. Matched pair 22 cal single shot refle and pistol by J stevens A&T co.
8. Lefaucheux type revolver octagon barrel crown marking on cyl . 6 shot
9. Winchester pistol saddle ring.
10 Remington 22 cal model 572 with alum barrel
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Franklin wrote:
2. Remington single action over/under Derringer..41 cal 3" barrel nickle finish hard rubber grips. Remington Arms--U>M>C Co Ilion NY stamp on top of barrel. L90527 stamp on bottom of barrel.
This is a third model 4th type, it's a Modern firearm it may be listed as a C&R the reason I mention this is it's not PRE-1898 and not "cash and carry" sale.

This model was made from 1912 to ~1935, based on the serial number it's a later gun and should be date stamped. If you look under the barrel on the locking lug there should be (at least) two letters stamped and you can look up the date on the site here https://www.remingtonsociety.org/manufacture-dates/

Nickel finish is less common then blue and it's value is determined by condition, condition, and condition.
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Ok I wasn't going to comment on the Winchester but a Saddle Ring PISTOL?
If it was a Rifle I might be able to help with at least which model.
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Thank You its a starting point. I did find lots of info on Rolling Block.
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Item 1 appears to be a standard New York State Model 1871 rifle in caliber 50-70. The barrel is longer than the usual Remington rifle, and the cartouches (initials) on the stock are a giveaway.
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