i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
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i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
So i have a rem 1894 serial number dates to 1907 i believe ,its a grade c with ordnance steel barrels and ejectors it has a raised matt rib and i believe is chocked tightly along with a silver initial ovel and a pistol grip stock thats fiddle figure barrel marked ordnance i read there was only a hand full of c e o traps made in 1907 and that somone docemented two was wondering if anyone had any documwntation on this one thanks for any help and god bless!
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Re: i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
Why would a circa 1907 CEO-Grade Remington Hammerless Double be "rare"? The CEO-Grade Trap Gun had a straight stock. Trap guns from the 1907 Remington Arms Co. catalog --
The regular C quality guns from the 1907 Remington Arms Co. catalog --
Remington's pro William Heer shooting a pair of Remington Trap Guns carried the high average for 1906 and featured heavily in the Remington Arms Co. magazine ads for the first half of 1907 --
The regular C quality guns from the 1907 Remington Arms Co. catalog --
Remington's pro William Heer shooting a pair of Remington Trap Guns carried the high average for 1906 and featured heavily in the Remington Arms Co. magazine ads for the first half of 1907 --
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Re: i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
I believe its rare as they were only produced during 1907 from wat iv gathered the 1907 c e o trap is really rare and there is somone who banks these serial numbers that person stated that theres only two recorded serials for c e o traps and both date 1907, second ik they were straight but could have been optioned with a pistol evrything else lines up with the c e o trap ad, wondering wat those known recorded serial numbers are if somone can get them also wondering if anyone has documentation on this specific serial as only a handfull were made in that year and likly owne by profesional shooters or a close friend or family of the dodges who owned rem at this time obviously a stretch on whos it is but i do beliwve it to be a rare c e o trap can anyone help verify rarity and wat it is and origins thanks god bless!
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Re: i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
The gun you pictured has a half-pistol grip of a regular CEO-Grade. The CEO Trap Gun is listed with a straight grip in every Remington Arms Co. catalog from the 1903-04 --
through the 1909 --
My CEO-Grade, which falls in the 1907 range in the serial number chronology the late Charles Semmer produced for his book Remington Double Shotguns, has 30-inch barrels with .034" right and .036" left choke. The pellet counts on the barrel lug shows it patterned 70% right and 71.2% left.
No production records for Remington Arms Co. doubles have been found. Charles created his serial number chronologies interpolating from surviving shipping records, so it is a best guesstimate.
through the 1909 --
My CEO-Grade, which falls in the 1907 range in the serial number chronology the late Charles Semmer produced for his book Remington Double Shotguns, has 30-inch barrels with .034" right and .036" left choke. The pellet counts on the barrel lug shows it patterned 70% right and 71.2% left.
No production records for Remington Arms Co. doubles have been found. Charles created his serial number chronologies interpolating from surviving shipping records, so it is a best guesstimate.
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Re: i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
According to the pellet counts on your rear barrel lug your gun left Ilion choked cylinder and improved modified. We know from guns that survive with their hang-tags that if the number on the lug is three digits that is it and if two-digits a leading 3 is implied, so your gun patterned 181 pellets in a 30-inch circle at forty yards from the right barrel and 334 pellets in a 30-inch circle at forty yards from the left barrel.and i believe is chocked tightly
Twelve-gauge Remington doubles of this vintage were targeted with #8 chilled shot in UMC Nitro Club load X8 - 3 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 24-grains of dense smokeless powder (such as Infallible or Ballistite) pushing 1 1/4-ounce of shot. One and a quarter ounce of #8 chilled goes 511 pellets. 181/511 = 35.4% 334/511 = 65.4%
Re: i have a 1984 i believe may be very rare plz help
Just out of curiosity, is this choke difference characteristic of the particular model of shotgun. The pellet count was one of the first things I noticed from the photos.